Comments on: Israel, Good Job! http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932 “Jews don’t fight!” mutters a Red Army soldier. “These Jews do!” Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:44:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: uberVU - social comments http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-3064 uberVU - social comments Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:57:50 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-3064 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by maxajl: New blog posting, Israel, Good Job! - http://tinyurl.com/yak39xm... Social comments and analytics for this post…

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]]> By: Benjamin Pletcher http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-3006 Benjamin Pletcher Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:10:35 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-3006 I like what Robert Downey, Sr. in an interview regarding his '60s film "Putney Swope" about satire--that making it today is "almost irresponsible." One need look no further than the Israeli TV show "Arab Labor" for a prime example of, as you say, Max, a "willing[ness] to indulge in self-deprecation but in turn [carrying] on with the behavior that one deprecates." Another one that comes to mind is the movie Team America. How many Iraqis/Afghanis/Palestinians have been killed since its release into the stratosphere of multiplexes and suburban homes 6 years ago? I like what Robert Downey, Sr. in an interview regarding his ‘60s film “Putney Swope” about satire–that making it today is “almost irresponsible.“
One need look no further than the Israeli TV show “Arab Labor” for a prime example of, as you say, Max, a “willing[ness] to indulge in self-deprecation but in turn [carrying] on with the behavior that one deprecates.“
Another one that comes to mind is the movie Team America. How many Iraqis/Afghanis/Palestinians have been killed since its release into the stratosphere of multiplexes and suburban homes 6 years ago?

]]> By: Jewbonic http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2992 Jewbonic Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:19:47 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2992 So healthy that it can mock itself. That's cute, but doesn't rise to the level of diagnosis. Democracy entails enfranchisement. Health entails treating citizens and non-citizens alike well. Here's one metric, transposed from elsewhere, but it fits: how do you judge the health of a society? by how it treats its prisoners. by that measure Israel is kind of fucked, since 1.4 million of them living in Gaza aren't treated too well. So healthy that it can mock itself. That’s cute, but doesn’t rise to the level of diagnosis. Democracy entails enfranchisement. Health entails treating citizens and non-citizens alike well. Here’s one metric, transposed from elsewhere, but it fits: how do you judge the health of a society? by how it treats its prisoners. by that measure Israel is kind of fucked, since 1.4 million of them living in Gaza aren’t treated too well.

]]> By: Jewbonic http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2991 Jewbonic Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:16:25 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2991 States have no rights. Certainly not the "right to exist." Hamas has essentially renounced the Charter in practice and calls for a decades-long hudna. You make peace with enemies, not friends. You peel off extremists by isolating them, which means engaging moderates. US/Israeli policy does the reverse, making the "terror blast" you worry about inevitable. States have no rights. Certainly not the “right to exist.“
Hamas has essentially renounced the Charter in practice and calls for a decades-long hudna. You make peace with enemies, not friends. You peel off extremists by isolating them, which means engaging moderates. US/Israeli policy does the reverse, making the “terror blast” you worry about inevitable.

]]> By: Jewbonic http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2990 Jewbonic Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:14:21 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2990 Go look up the thread john. I am not your babysitter, and am not sifting through John Stewart or Southpark archives. try to understand the role of satire within Western culture. Go look up the thread john. I am not your babysitter, and am not sifting through John Stewart or Southpark archives. try to understand the role of satire within Western culture.

]]> By: john http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2986 john Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:12:42 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2986 @ jewbonic -- How so? Specifically point out facts that have been brought into existence by me. You make a number of accusations but you never back anything you say up. You are the one that blocks what goes on his site or alters what people say under their own names. @Moses -- When was the daily show aired on primetime? It's aired on the comedy channel! Not only that, when have you heard john stewart make fun of the military or any military correspondent? Don't confuse the republican army with the U.S. military. @ jewbonic — How so? Specifically point out facts that have been brought into existence by me. You make a number of accusations but you never back anything you say up. You are the one that blocks what goes on his site or alters what people say under their own names.

@Moses — When was the daily show aired on primetime? It’s aired on the comedy channel! Not only that, when have you heard john stewart make fun of the military or any military correspondent? Don’t confuse the republican army with the U.S. military.

]]> By: @AbeBird http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2982 @AbeBird Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:52:53 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2982 Anti Semitism lives in some Muslim societies, as they were in the past. The political issue is just an excuse to cover the truth and the origin of hate: Islamism can’t see other societies aside living independently and in prosper. Israel according the Islamic interpretation was created on Islamic soil, Dahr el-Islam, on Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] and as such has not any legitimacy at all. One may sign a peace treaty with Israel but yet not recognize the right of her existence. It is a phony peace, it’s not a peace, it’s a Mohammadine’s Hudna which will end in another terror blast against the Jews in Palestine. The charter of Hamas calls for the complete destruction of Israel. Anti Semitism lives in some Muslim societies, as they were in the past. The political issue is just an excuse to cover the truth and the origin of hate: Islamism can’t see other societies aside living independently and in prosper. Israel according the Islamic interpretation was created on Islamic soil, Dahr el-Islam, on Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] and as such has not any legitimacy at all. One may sign a peace treaty with Israel but yet not recognize the right of her existence. It is a phony peace, it’s not a peace, it’s a Mohammadine’s Hudna which will end in another terror blast against the Jews in Palestine. The charter of Hamas calls for the complete destruction of Israel.

]]> By: @AbeBird http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2981 @AbeBird Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:52:21 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2981 Eretz Nehederet makes satire on left and right, rich and poor, Jews and Arabs...... don't conclude more than it is and not less, but that Israel is a very healthy democracy. Most of hers citizens love satire and humor although the delicate strategically conditions the Israelis live by. That is another face of their success and energy. By the way less than 20% of the Israelis see that program each week. Eretz Nehederet makes satire on left and right, rich and poor, Jews and Arabs.….. don’t conclude more than it is and not less, but that Israel is a very healthy democracy. Most of hers citizens love satire and humor although the delicate strategically conditions the Israelis live by. That is another face of their success and energy. By the way less than 20% of the Israelis see that program each week.

]]> By: Ali http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2973 Ali Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:28:34 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2973 John, "Arab apartheid?" My man, Israel is a creation of the Anglo-Saxon world imposed on the Greater Middle East. They have done an admirable job of replicating and perfecting South Africa's apartheid to the point where the Bantustans look like paradise compared with the Balkanized West Bank and the open air prison that is Gaza. Israel's existence and policies (and Western support of them) have done more to further extremism in the Middle East than any strain of Islam. The Salafist/Wahhabi of Sunni Islam strain came to prominence post-WWII, in no small part due to the imposition of Israel's existence on the region. Though the 1979 Revolution in Iran had a great deal to do with domestic politics, Israel was also a target for the clerics and allowed them to gain popular support by taking a hard line in support of the PLO. Still gonna toe that line? John,

“Arab apartheid?” My man, Israel is a creation of the Anglo-Saxon world imposed on the Greater Middle East. They have done an admirable job of replicating and perfecting South Africa’s apartheid to the point where the Bantustans look like paradise compared with the Balkanized West Bank and the open air prison that is Gaza.

Israel’s existence and policies (and Western support of them) have done more to further extremism in the Middle East than any strain of Islam. The Salafist/Wahhabi of Sunni Islam strain came to prominence post-WWII, in no small part due to the imposition of Israel’s existence on the region. Though the 1979 Revolution in Iran had a great deal to do with domestic politics, Israel was also a target for the clerics and allowed them to gain popular support by taking a hard line in support of the PLO.

Still gonna toe that line?

]]> By: Jewbonic http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932&cpage=1#comment-2975 Jewbonic Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:43:34 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2932#comment-2975 I think maybe facts and reality only exist when convenient within this mindset. When not convenient, make up new ones. I think maybe facts and reality only exist when convenient within this mindset. When not convenient, make up new ones.

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