Comments on: Ahmadinejad, Jewish? Ahmadinejad, Popular? http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152 “Jews don’t fight!” mutters a Red Army soldier. “These Jews do!” Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:30:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a Secret Jew? The Debate Rages On | MagMe http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1798 Is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a Secret Jew? The Debate Rages On | MagMe Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:20:17 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1798 [...] blog Jewbonics offers a nice, scathing insight: “This is unrefined non-sense, although it does mean that for [...] […] blog Jewbonics offers a nice, scathing insight: “This is unrefined non-sense, although it does mean that for […]

]]> By: Jenny http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1767 Jenny Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:24:24 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1767 Is hass saying the protests were orchestrated? Is hass saying the protests were orchestrated?

]]> By: Jewbonic http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1765 Jewbonic Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:40:16 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1765 Yes. But it's more pleasant to dream right? Yes. But it’s more pleasant to dream right?

]]> By: hass http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1764 hass Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:28:35 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1764 Phrases such as "the hegemony of the clerics" shows that you know nothing about Iran or Iranian politics. Ahmadinejad was OPPOSED by clerics. Mousavi, his main opponent, represents an establishment cleric named Rafsanjani, widely considered to be one of the wealthiest individuals in Iran. Phrases such as “the hegemony of the clerics” shows that you know nothing about Iran or Iranian politics. Ahmadinejad was OPPOSED by clerics. Mousavi, his main opponent, represents an establishment cleric named Rafsanjani, widely considered to be one of the wealthiest individuals in Iran.

]]> By: hass http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1763 hass Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:26:19 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1763 There are actually two polls conducted bu US NGOs that show Ahmadinejad as being popular -- one was taken a couple of weeks before the elections, and one after. The one before was dismissed in the US media as being "dated" (it occured 2 weeks before the actual elections) and the one after is being ignored. And if you mention the word "Marxist" to anyone in Iran -- especially the members of the bourgeois "Green Movement" -- you'd be laughed at out loud. WHo do you think in IRan can afford to "Twitter" and stuff in English, the members of the working class? There are actually two polls conducted bu US NGOs that show Ahmadinejad as being popular — one was taken a couple of weeks before the elections, and one after. The one before was dismissed in the US media as being “dated” (it occured 2 weeks before the actual elections) and the one after is being ignored.

And if you mention the word “Marxist” to anyone in Iran — especially the members of the bourgeois “Green Movement” — you’d be laughed at out loud. WHo do you think in IRan can afford to “Twitter” and stuff in English, the members of the working class?

]]> By: Billy http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1762 Billy Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:18:57 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1762 A-Jad is always good for a laugh. But unfortunately now he’ll be forced to exterminate himself. <a href="http://doodiepants.com/2009/10/04/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-forced-to-exterminate-himself-jewish/" target="_blank">http://doodiepants.com/2009/10/04/mahmoud-ahmadin...</a> A-Jad is always good for a laugh. But unfortunately now he’ll be forced to exterminate himself.

http://doodiepants.com/2009/10/04/mahmoud-ahmadin...

]]> By: Jewbonic http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1759 Jewbonic Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:02:11 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1759 OK, well now that's an empirical claim, for which you haven't offered any evidence. There's plenty of Iranian Marxist analysis <i>about</i> the Green Movement, less evidence that the (minuscule) number of Iranian Marxists are anything more than a fringe phenomenon within that movement, and still less evidence that they are speaking to that 81 percent [an 81 percent which seems to totally ignore their analyses casting pox on both houses if you look at the rest of the poll cited]. If they're doing "about the same thing that Marxists are doing in the USA," then it's pretty safe to say they're speaking to each other, and other international Marxists, much as we* are right here, both literally and figuratively. *I'm not a Marxist, but close enough that it'd be strange and preening to specify what I am OK, well now that’s an empirical claim, for which you haven’t offered any evidence. There’s plenty of Iranian Marxist analysis about the Green Movement, less evidence that the (minuscule) number of Iranian Marxists are anything more than a fringe phenomenon within that movement, and still less evidence that they are speaking to that 81 percent [an 81 percent which seems to totally ignore their analyses casting pox on both houses if you look at the rest of the poll cited].
If they’re doing “about the same thing that Marxists are doing in the USA,” then it’s pretty safe to say they’re speaking to each other, and other international Marxists, much as we* are right here, both literally and figuratively.

*I’m not a Marxist, but close enough that it’d be strange and preening to specify what I am

]]> By: Louis Proyect http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1758 Louis Proyect Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:34:21 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1758 But Iranian Marxists are speaking to the 81 percent (accepting for a moment that this is accurate). They are putting forward a class perspective and challenging the hegemony of the clerics. They are doing about the same thing that Marxists are doing in the USA, of course without the obstacles of arbitrary arrest and torture--at least for the time being. But Iranian Marxists are speaking to the 81 percent (accepting for a moment that this is accurate). They are putting forward a class perspective and challenging the hegemony of the clerics. They are doing about the same thing that Marxists are doing in the USA, of course without the obstacles of arbitrary arrest and torture–at least for the time being.

]]> By: Jewbonic http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1757 Jewbonic Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:32:48 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1757 the poll isn't "correct," polls aren't "correct" or "incorrect," unless they're exit polls for voting, they're an approximation of societal sentiment. the comment that "polling suggested that more Iranians trust Ahmadi's management of the economy than don't" is a statement of fact. of course some in the streets had economic grievances, but that isn't how most have been reading the movement, even its most vociferous supporters. the poll isn’t “correct,” polls aren’t “correct” or “incorrect,” unless they’re exit polls for voting, they’re an approximation of societal sentiment. the comment that “polling suggested that more Iranians trust Ahmadi’s management of the economy than don’t” is a statement of fact.
of course some in the streets had economic grievances, but that isn’t how most have been reading the movement, even its most vociferous supporters.

]]> By: Jenny http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152&cpage=1#comment-1756 Jenny Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:40:29 +0000 http://www.maxajl.com/?p=2152#comment-1756 Yes, I understand what you wrote,but continue as if that poll is ultimately correct such as your response of why people approve of ahmadin's economic policies when I lamented of a possible common grievance that inspired the protests. Yes, I understand what you wrote,but continue as if that poll is ultimately correct such as your response of why people approve of ahmadin’s economic policies when I lamented of a possible common grievance that inspired the protests.

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